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Animated IRSE layouts
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I was having a play around with Photoshop this morning and created an animated GIF and believe I could do this for routes on an exam layout. Would it be useful? (I know the aspect sequencing is incorrect). Also I can make screen recordings of various routes being set on a real IECC/MCS/WESTCAD layout is it legal to publish on this forum and would it have any merit on learning for module 3?
Here's the animated GIF now attached
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(07-02-2010, 12:23 PM)merlin89 Wrote: I was having a play around with Photoshop this morning and created an animated GIF and believe I could do this for routes on an exam layout. Would it be useful? (I know the aspect sequencing is incorrect). Also I can make screen recordings of various routes being set on a real IECC/MCS/WESTCAD layout is it legal to publish on this forum and would it have any merit on learning for module 3?
Here's the animated GIF now attached

1. yes may well be
If you made the signal be an LED type then the bottom aspect (of two) would correctly change from Red to Yellow.

2. I am not a lawyer so I pass on that one but to be honest I don't see the harm. However the video files might be rather big.
But yes I definitely believe that many would find it easier to understand if they had experience of signalling from a signallers viewpoint which is why I made use of Watford a couple of years ago to demonstrate both the panel there and an IECC/SSI simulation courtesy of a supportive company.
It was good in Bangalore to have a visit to McML's model railway controlled from a signalling panel for much the same reason. This year we are making plans to use an interlocking simulator at the YM Mod3 Study Day which we are attempting to organise for May. If here is something that we can do on-line then I'd be all for it
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(07-02-2010, 03:01 PM)PJW Wrote: But yes I definitely believe that many would find it easier to understand if they had experience of signalling from a signallers viewpoint which is why I made use of Watford a couple of years ago to demonstrate both the panel there and an IECC/SSI simulation courtesy of a supportive company.

Dear all,

Try SimSig. It is a real-world simulator for several boxes around the country. Included in the applicable boxes are ARS, SPAD alarms, signalling trains across "real" fringes.

PJW, do you feel Signet would allow us to mock up a networked sim on the training day?
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(12-02-2010, 02:06 PM)Jerry1237 Wrote: PJW, do you feel Signet would allow us to mock up a networked sim on the training day?
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Actually I have arranged Thuy-My from Siemens to be there with GeSim which will have the real Havant implementation. This is an interlocking simulator used in the development and used for product testing, including initial set-to-work by Principles testers. This will be good for demonstating realisation of Control Tables; I agree that something like Simsig would give a better impression of "train running".

I have also in the past considered using one of the train simulators really for module 2 purposes; too few understand running around rollingstock, shunting or even train braking etc.
Never done it though- partly because in the little time felt needed to concentrate on actual exam questions. This year we are looking to do the evnet in May rather than August; may also give opportunity to change the character of what we do- background education to improve understanding rather than focussed on mock exam questions and feedback.

Perhaps this is one for which we should "Ask the Audience".......
PJW
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#5
Perhaps it might also be a good idea for the company I work for to display our simulator which is used in over 25 network rail signalling centres which uses the currently commissioned SSI, ARS and current timetable data for that area. We may also be able to show how we integrate that data through the use of our editor, which displays signal memory, points memory input,output bits etc for any given interlocking also including westlocks. This tool is 3/4 years on from the IECC simulator that is currently in use at Watford and was built on top of the engine originally used for Simsig. You may also be interested to know Peter that we already have a simulator in place for Reading workstation 4 at the TVSC.
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(13-02-2010, 10:23 AM)merlin89 Wrote: Perhaps it might also be a good idea for the company I work for to display our simulator which is used in over 25 network rail signalling centres which uses the currently commissioned SSI, ARS and current timetable data for that area. We may also be able to show how we integrate that data through the use of our editor, which displays signal memory, points memory input,output bits etc for any given interlocking also including westlocks. This tool is 3/4 years on from the IECC simulator that is currently in use at Watford and was built on top of the engine originally used for Simsig. You may also be interested to know Peter that we already have a simulator in place for Reading workstation 4 at the TVSC.

Indeed it was useful to have the Paddington end of Slough IECC at the mod3 training day that we did at Watford a few years back as a contrast to the panels in the signallers' training school. We however did not explore the the ability to signal trains on a layout as a signaller would- rather we used it to show the aspect sequences and discuss flashing aspects etc.
Certainly I'd be interested in the TVSC simulation, but you upset NR if you call it Workstation4 as they are pretending that it never had that nomenclature. There has been a musical chairs in the room, so there is now no rational reason to call it 4; nd NR are expecting all the contractors to update all the relevant drawings for free that refer to it by number and we want paying for this re-work because of their change!
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The sole reason for suggesting SimSig is that I can drive it and have a specific interest in Swindon B. For the operational aspects of understanding signalling it is superb. If feel too many of us forget the real world outside of our silos. TreSim would of course be preferred but would the candidate be able to play with it?

J
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#8
you might also try these ones:

http://www.signalsimulation.com/links/HengeloEN.html
This provides you some insight into NX signalling principles. The demoversion allows unlimited access to the interlocking principles.

and
http://www.signalsimulation.com/links/Multiplayer.html
gives you the ability to join an online free longer run of the operational parts of it.

it's in full english (though it does NOT follow the UK/US english wordings ON PURPOSE. This due to the operational differences in the meaning of words)

UK PSB's are in development currently.
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